27 September 2007

Praise dance at St. Alphonsus Liguori "Rock" Church in St. Louis

I give credit (or blame) to Spirit Daily for bringing this to my attention. It is three minutes long and insufferably hard to watch.

I hope the rebuilding of this Church does not include a stage to facilitate this sort of thing.

Based on the video, it is not absolutely certain in my mind that this is taking place during Mass, but it sure does look like it.

Hey, didn't this place get hit by lightning recently?

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Once again this place is NOT CATHOLIC!
At best they are a sad version of Pentecostalism. I for one can't understand why our bloved Archbishop puts up with that kind of VOODOO in a so called Catholic church.???
Personally, I think they should be told to straighten up or get out. They took the archdiocese 100,000.00 to fix their temple of protestantism, but for some reason can't follow the Churches directives. Sin of PRIDE! PRIDE!

We need to stand up and expose these so called liberal parishes and their priests. It's a new day faithful catholics. Lets not let this pass us by...

Mother of Perpetual Help pray for these poor misguided souls. Archbishop, DO SOMETHING PLEASE. This kind of place is misguiding souls, and could very well lead them into eternal damnation.

semperidem said...

I thought the Jesuits ran this church? Well that would explain it...

Christopher said...

Please tell me this was Filmed BEFORE Archbishop Burke Arrived

thetimman said...

Semperidem, that is not a Jesuit-run Church; the Redemptorists have it, although I believe (but am not sure) that an Archdiocesan priest is assigned as pastor. I don't know how much control, if any, the Archdiocese has over decisions like these.

Latinmassgirl said...

Wow! If you look closely you can see priests vested and seated near the alter facing us as in the N.O. mass. It sadly, may have been an added "entertainment" to the "so boring" mass! I'll take the reverent, Latin mass anyday!

thetimman said...

Thanks for that eponymous comment, LatinMassgirl!

seminarian said...

Thetimman, the pastor is a Redemtorist and the parish is run by Redemtorists.
I know the Archbishop well and he definitly uses tact and prudence when it comes to these situations. In time these sort of things will change for the better, all we can do is wait and pray. But just a reminder, the archbishop knows how to handle the problem!

thetimman said...

Seminarian, I have every confidence in the Archbishop both generally, and in this specific case. It is always a delicate matter when an ordinary deals with religious orders within his geographic territory.

My main point in the above comment was to let the Jesuits off the hook in the other commenter's mind. This time, anyway. ;-)

Zach said...

hey, how did you embed a youtube video on your blog? Every time I try it it screws up my blog. email me.

thetimman said...

I can only do it by registering at youtube and doing it from there. they have "publish to your blog" link. I haven't been able to do it via the blogger method.

ROCK4EVER said...

HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE OUR CHURCH WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US AND WHO WE ARE. WE ARE A HISTORICALLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCH RUN BY THE REDEMPTORISTS! WHY DON'T YOU ATTEND SUNDAY SERVICE WITH US BEFORE YOU PASS JUDGMENT. WE ALSO HAVE OVER 100 COMMUNITY MINISTRIES THAT WE RUN AND FACILITATE EACH YEAR. THE BIBLE ENCOURAGES PRAISE TO GOD IN ALL FORMS. WE ALSO BRING OUR BIBLES TO SERVICE EVERY SUNDAY AND READ THEM DAILY. THAT'S WHY I CHOSE THIS CHURCH AFTER BEING IN CATHOLIC INSTITUTIONS SINCE I WAS 6. THE TEACHINGS I LEARNED IN THOSE YEARS SICKENED ME TO THE POINT THAT I CONSIDERED CONVERTING TO JUDAISM TO FIND THE TRUTH. I FINALLY FOUND IT WHEN I CAME TO THE ROCK.

REMEMBER--"JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED".

thetimman said...

Rock4ever,

No need to shout. No one made any comment about your parish except the obvious and scandalous liturgical abuses that regularly take place there. Are you saying that the dance in that video only happened once, or that it has been discontinued? That would be a relevant piece of information. I am glad you have over 100 ministries. Now, if you could have Catholic Mass on Sundays to go with them, Masses celebrated as the rubrics of your Church call for, then you would have a great situation. Otherwise, to the extent that you intentionally deviate from the Catholic Mass, you by definition have a protestant service.

Anonymous said...

When are we as Catholic people going to stop criticizing eachother? There is NO reason why there should be any negative comment about dance in the liturgy. Praising God in all forms is what is right. Some people praise God through music, poetry, speech.... why should dance be any different? If we discriminate against certain forms of worship, them we are telling people that they cannot worship God. God comes to people in different ways, times, places, situations... there is absolutely NO reason why He cannot inspire people through dance. The body is a temple for our God, why can we not allow ourselves to move with joy for all the wonderful things that He has done for us? Open-mindedness is key in understanding faith and worship. It is Jesus who loves every single person on this earth no matter who they are. He did not judge us, why should we judge eachother?

devoinmo said...

Are you all serious? I cant believe that Catholics that call themselves Christians would say such HORRIBLE things about young people dancing in a way to give praise and glory and thanks to our GOD and Jesus Christ for all that has been done for us! If you want to criticize someone take your comments else where instead of against your brothers and sisters in Christ! It makes absolutely no difference what type of church this is, the fact is that the Bible tells us in Psalms 150 to praise the Lord. How dare anyone speak against something that they are NOT educated on. I have personally visited the church and find it to be a refreshing addition to the Catholic church. PRAISE GOD!

Anonymous said...

There is nothing wrong with wanting to praise God, but that does not mean that you have the right to disrupt what is His most beautiful Sacrament. The mass is an established event that unites the universal church through the one Body of Christ. No matter what, that isthe most important liturgical event that ever takes place. The transubstantiation takes place only when you have a valid mass, and an explicit separation from the rubrics would clearly make this a form of liturgical abuse. That is not to say that worshipping God outside of mass in other ways is to be discouraged. All that we do should be done "all for the greater honor and glory of God." I hope that you see why it is not logical to criticize those who want to defend the liturgy, when they are perfectly capable of saying that you are offending the beliefs of the universal church. If you want to call a Sunday Service Catholic, then it must be a valid liturgical form. There must be Communion (with very few exceptions) and a Priest must lead the Mass according the rite laid out in the Roman Missal. Otherwise, do not refer to the event in any way as a liturgy.