25 March 2009

Move Over Hitler: House Passes Obama Youth Bill

Obama promised during the campaign to create a Socialist National Civilian Security Force similar to what they have in other Marxist regimes. Yesterday, the US House took the first step in organizing Dear Leader's dream youth service corp. The House passed the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act yesterday. The bill includes language indicating young people will be forced to participate in mandatory national service programs. The bill also states that "service learning" will be a mandatory part of the youth curriculum.That doesn't sound much like "volunteerism" does it?

The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force” intensify.
The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate.
Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”
Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency”.
“The legislation, slated to cost $6 billion over five years, would create 175,000 “new service opportunities” under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the national volunteer program to 250,000. It would also create additional “corps” to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps and Veterans Service Corps, and it expands the National Civilian Community Corps to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation,” reports Fox News.
Let the indoctrination begin.
More... Kelley in Virginia adds:

"There is even a provision in the bill for uniforms."
Of course.


TGL said...

You really ought to be more careful in what you post. This goes beyond the pale. Just the fact that you cited the source of this garbage doesn't relieve of the responsibility for publishing it. On the subject at hand, I assume you opposed the military draft we had from World War II to the middle of the Vietnam War.

Anonymous said...

Here are the tallied votes for the G.I.V.E. Act. A bit surprising.

thetimman said...

TGL, I really don't take your meaning. "Responsibility" for posting a news story that is true? One cannot criticize the policy proposals of a politician? Is this America, or is it in fact Nazi Germany?

Anonymous said...

Dear TGL,
I too am not sure of what you mean. "Beyond the pale"? What is it that you found objectionable? Do you mean that this story isn't true? That there is no such bill, or that there has not been vote?
Please point out the garbage factor here.

On another point though, I'm curious how you connect a military draft of troops in defense of our country in time of war to "Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education"?

Mark S.
New Haven, MO

TGL said...

Don't act all innocent. Criticizing Obama's policy proposals is fair game. Comparing his proposal (which, by the way, received more votes from Republicans than Democrats) to Nazi Germany with a picture of the Hitler youth is insulting. No one's saying you can't do what you did. It is extremely poor taste. By the way, you didn't answer my question.

Anonymous said...

TGL finds any criticism of or questions about Obama, based on facts in the public record, to be out-of-bounds.

Anonymous said...

Oh my!

"Give me your youth!"


thetimman said...

Anon and TGL, you don't have this one right-- the vote that anon listed the tally for was a "motion to recommit with instructions". A motion to recommit kills a bill. However, a motion to recommit with instructions is a motion to send a bill back for a last chance to amend it. The fact that NO republicans voted against this motion should have tipped you off.

See here for explanation: http://www.c-span.org/guide/congress/glossary/morecomm.htm

TGL said...

And you still haven't answered my question.

Anonymous said...

Dear TGL,
Act innocent? For my part, I asked you an honest question. Your original post never once made reference to the picture, I guess if you had, then I would have paid attention to it more.

Should I assume then, that your objection is only to the picture? Perhaps you're correct, the Hitler Youth were a far cry different than a State ordered volunteer organization. Especially, I'm sure that the stated goals of both the Hitler Youth and GIVE are so diametrically different.

Was there more than the picture that you found disagreeable?

Mark S.
New Haven, MO

Maria said...

I wonder if I could perform my mandatory volunteer work by sidewalk counseling at planned parenthood?

Latinmassgirl said...

When the government forces our children to be indoctrinated in their ideas of "volunteerism", or "nationalism" it is getting closer to communism.

Cuban youth, aged 10 and up must work the fields and attend "boarding indoctrination schools." They are only allowed to see their parents on weekends. If their parents speak out against their government, then they are brainwashed to tell on their parents.

I wonder if Obama would have our children brainwashed in "volunteer camps," to embrace his Marxist goal of our government. Will we be arrested for teaching our children that homosexuality is a grave sin and marriage is between a man and a woman?

dulac90 said...


I'm stll looking for the question. I see a warning, an opinion, a judgement, and an assumption in the original comment...but no question.

Anonymous said...

Timman - My bad. Thank you for explaining the correct meaning of the 'Tallied Votes' link on 13:22. The source was a link provided by a reader on the Free Republic site linked to from your post.

cmziall said...

I'm with you Dulac90! I was going to say the same thing in regards to TGL's first post. I took the last sentence of his post as an accusation since there wasn't any question mark at the end of it.