17 February 2011

A Matter for Prayer

Rorate Caeli is sounding the alarm about the rumored and long-awaited "clarification" or "instruction" letter on the implementation of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum. The site says that the current, unreleased text is greatly restrictive, and that it reverts to an "indult" mentality to the great contradiction of the text and intent of the motu proprio.

I post this link with some misgivings, and of course with a sense of irony, since concurrent with this posting on the state of the rumor mill I will give a warning about listening to rumors.

This is all very reminiscent to the build-up to Summorum Pontificum itself. Lots of rumors, even on the very eve of release, predicting gloom or glee. But, generally, Rorate Caeli was very close to the mark then, so I will give them some credit here.

Of course, any attempt to water down legislation with non-legislative directions will be greatly disappointing. Before the motu proprio--which only confirmed what was already true, that the Mass was not abrogated-- the traditional Catholic evangelist had to almost have a doctorate in Canon Law or Sacramental Theology to be able to explicate the proof. I'd hate to have to revert to those days, but hey, read my post on veils if you think I'll shrink from it.

Hence, I think it is worth noting this post, without getting too excited just yet. And above all, pray for the Holy Father, and ask Our Lady to protect and preserve the Church from error and heresy.


Fr. Andrew said...


I'd encourage your readers to encounter Father Z's recommendations as well regarding the possible document on Summorum Pontificum

long pants said...

Oh brother, were you really expecting your Latin Rite to become the norm? You keep yourself so shielded from the reality of what's going on in our church today. Your little missives about the sanctuary (Jeremiah 7:4) are so irrelevant. An "indult mentality" is exactly what is called for here. You are being given permission to stray from the norm. Have your little Latin Mass, but stay out of the way of Christians at work.

thetimman said...

long pants,

Thanks for your kind advice. It's good to see you commenting again.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Timman, I second Long Pants! I think everyone should follow the norm and just stay home on Sundays. I mean if you are going to be luke-warm, why not be perfectly so?


Long-Skirts said...

long pants said...
"Oh brother, were you really expecting your Latin Rite to become the norm?"

long pants artificial contraception is the norm in our society I have 10 children because I don't follow the norm - EVER!!
...and BTW, are you a man or a woman?


One day Assisi
The next day Latin
One day The Way
Some use a paten.

Some let ministers
Hand out Our Lord
So you can have your pick.

Sometimes bongos
Assembly on their feet
Holding hands in the air
Kneelers obsolete.

One Holy Catholic
Apostolic Church?
Good for some let others run
In circles as they search.

For we are all approved
Don't ever rock the boat --
Like those who open schools have classes
Teaching souls to float.

Saintly Thomas More
Could’ve had it all
Private Latin Masses
Behind a purpled wall.

But no he chose the scaffold
Where truth and lie collide

Heads were cut --

Entrails gut -

Ambiguity couldn’t hide!

Anonymous said...

so what exactly would this mean for the Oratory if this turns out to be the case? I'd also like to know your thoughts on the Archbishops feelings towards the Latin Mass, if he indeed has any. I get the feeling he isn't a fan.

Kansas Catholic said...

It is funny that Long Pants writes: "Do you expect your Latin Rite to become the norm?" Uh, yeah? This person does not know their "Latin Rite" from their extraordinary form. The ordinary form is the most common Mass in the Latin Rite, Long Pants. Of course, there are other rites (some obscure) that fall within the "Latin Rite."

In the end, what do you care about whether the Extraordinary Form is further liberated or restricted again? You know what's "going on in the church today" and what is "relevant" and what is not.

That 1500 hundred years of liturgical history might or might not matter in the next 1500 seems of little consequence to you. A sign or a thoughtful Catholic is the ability to take the long view-- backward and forward. If you are interested more in the relevance of the day, you'll need long pants in deed. Long enough to build a small tent. You seem not interested in a tent of any other size.

God bless.

thetimman said...

Anonymous, I don't think any of this would affect the Oratory. It pre-existed the motu proprio and the Institute's charism has always been the sole use of the ancient liturgies.

As for Abp. Carlson, I wouldn't say he is against the traditional Mass. He has visited the Oratory, for instance, and has been friendly to the Institute since he has been here. He may not prefer the EF for himself, I don't know, but I wouldn't be quick to assume anything negative.

thetimman said...

One more thing-- if the EF were curtailed elsewhere, it would likely have a short-term effect of benefitting the Oratories, as the choices of Catholics would become fewer. But no Catholic who loves the Mass wants this. I don't, and I know the Institue doesn't. The goal, and I believe the likely outcome--after some time, of course-- is that the EF will be the norm and the OF will be the province of the few who "cling" to a particular liturgical style. The irony of that day won't be lost on me, IF I live to see it.

Anonymous said...

I sure hope you are right. If I should live long enough to witness the EF form become the norm, I would die a happy man.

Anonymous said...

Well I guess that the pews of the SSPX would growin numbers.