25 April 2014

More fallout from Phonegate

"Finding out that your father is really Darth Vader is going to give anyone a case of the Mondays." --Steve Skojec

Hilary White and Steve Skojec (who refers to Hilary's post) cover the potential fallout for the Church and our own proper response, if the worst is true of the substance of Phonegate, particularly if the unthinkable happens at the Synod on the Family this Fall.

In one of my posts from yesterday concerning Phonegate, I linked to an article by Fr. Ray Blake, whose initial take on the matter was to assume that the Pope could not have told that woman it was OK to take Communion, because otherwise Very. Bad. Things. necessarily followed.


Miss White and Mr. Skojec beg to disagree.  Read both in their entirety, but excerpts below:

Hilary White:

Here is where we have one of the biggest problems in the post-Conciliar Church and a source of huge misinformation perpetuated by those who think they are doing all they can to rescue Catholics from despair and apostasy (or sedevacantism... which is pretty much the same thing).

I get it. I get that faithful Catholics are freaked out at what's been happening. But if the very worst is true, it SO doesn't mean what Fr. Blake says it means.


If the pope isn't Catholic, it doesn't mean that we are all not Catholic, or that we have to abandon the Faith, or that it is "built on sand." Only if you have got into your head the error that "the pope is the Faith" or that the Faith requires a good pope to be true can it possibly follow that a bad pope = bad or untrue religion.


This is the error of papal positivism - papolotry - at it's core, but it is opposed to the Faith.


[...]

 It is clear that the current worries about Francis and the general state of things are not isolated, unique or distinct from the general catastrophe that has befallen us. We're hurting more than we would have, I think, because the transition from John Paul II to Benedict XVI seemed to us like a natural progression in the Great Effort to Fix Things. That was something else that we incorrectly put our faith in, that the situation was terrible in the 70s and 80s, and since then there has been a steady restoration to sanity. All the evidence that this was not the case we tended to just sweep under our mental rug and ignore.

Well, we can't ignore it any more, can we. Francis, if I may say something so dreadful, is a symptom - or perhaps the culmination - of the overall disaster that has become the ruling principle of the world since 1965. Francis, in other words, is nothing new, and if we had not put so much energy into clamping our eyes shut against the real problems with both the last pontificates, we would not be in such a state now. We would have been able to, with the Trads, shrug and say, "Well, what can you expect. It's NuChurch."


But again, if Francis is a bad pope this has no effect on the Faith. None. The Faith is simply the Truth. The Real. The realness of the Real does not change or fade because lots and lots of people want to deny it or because powerful men try to fight it. Two and two still equal four. Marriage is still what it is. The Holy Eucharist is still the Holy Eucharist. 


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 Facing up to what is really happening is the only way to maintain the Faith. Retreating and saying, "Oh, that couldn't possibly happen and if it did then the Real is no longer the Real," is going to allow the disaster to spread still further. Only the Real counts. And if the pope and all the cardinals and bishops of the world try to say that something other than the Word of Christ is true, then we reject that as a wicked lie. We know what is true because we have the Faith.

As laypeople (and humble parish priests) our duty is clearly before us. We don't have the power to stop bad men from doing bad things. But we have the power to continue to maintain the Faith, what we know. And to pray for a just solution to the terrible troubles of our times.
 



Steve Skojec:


Facing up to what is really happening is the only way to maintain the Faith. Retreating and saying, "Oh, that couldn't possibly happen and if it did then the Real is no longer the Real," is going to allow the disaster to spread still further. Only the Real counts. And if the pope and all the cardinals and bishops of the world try to say that something other than the Word of Christ is true, then we reject that as a wicked lie. We know what is true because we have the Faith.

As laypeople (and humble parish priests) our duty is clearly before us. We don't have the power to stop bad men from doing bad things. But we have the power to continue to maintain the Faith, what we know. And to pray for a just solution to the terrible troubles of our times. 



[...]


This is what is happening. Right now, seeing the Church agonizing and being compromised and the pope doing and saying unthinkable things, the faith of many is being severely challenged. And yet, even if the worst case comes to pass, even if the pope himself apostatizes, this isn’t the end of the road for us as Catholics.

This may really be the Church’s via dolorosa, but there will be a Road to Emmaus that follows. If you’re struggling with the possibilities, take heart. God is present and active in his Church in ways that we don’t see. God will find a way and keep his promises. He always does, even if he seems to take a certain delight in making us wait for it until it seems all hope is lost.
I prefer to ride the faith train. I am, by God’s grace alone, praying more these days than I ever have, and God is making his presence known to me in ways that are entirely new and incredibly comforting. Reach out to him. He sees the confusion and the hurt. He will console you. Take heart, and draw close to the Lord.

3 comments:

St. Corbinian's Bear said...

We're all Bat Christians now.

Anonymous said...

I think steve gets my vote. The only real answer is to turn to Holy Spirit, as at Pentecost, and seek to be so filled with the Truth that we will step out into the streets and proclaim the love of Jesus Christ. The Church is the same today as always, the gates of Hell cannot prevail against her and when Peter falls, he is to turn and support his brothers and sisters. (my paraphrase) We are called to be great saints in the midst of great trials. Whatever is happening in the Pope, and I realize I have turned my head to seek the face of the Holy Spirit, I cannot guess. yet, I can have faith in Christ, what he told us, what he promised us and the persecution of the church is in full swing. We now join our 'Head" who was crucified, rejected, but rose. We as the body will follow him in truth. The great cleansing has begun I believe. Fear not as John Paul stated. Take heart as Peter did in the sea of Galilee when they saw a 'ghost' waling toward them. Call out to Christ and let him help you do the impossible. Walk on the water. Christ is Risen, He is Truly risen. This is our hope. alaskamom

Anonymous said...

Perhaps listen to this
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/04/25/306773966/two-very-different-popes-will-be-canonized

Mary B.