10 November 2014

Pope: Unforgiving Christians Cause Scandal, Damage Faith




From EWTN:

A Christian who causes scandal destroys the faith and a Christian who does not forgive causes scandal – but it is only through the gift of faith that these challenges can be overcome, Pope Francis said.

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Pope Francis also stressed the importance of forgiveness, for “a Christian who is not able to forgive scandalizes: he is not Christian.”

The concept of forgiving as we ourselves are forgiven, taught in the Our Father, is not one which can be understood by human logic, the Pope said. Rather than leading to forgiveness, the approach of “human logic” veers towards revenge, hate, and division.


3 comments:

Barto said...

Quoting from this blog post:

"Pope Francis also stressed the importance of forgiveness, for 'a Christian who is not able to forgive scandalizes: he is not Christian'."

It is basic, perennial Catholic teaching that one does not cease to be a Christian just because one sins. That is fundamental to the Catholic Religion.

This is similar to when Francis declared that all members of the Mafia were excommunicated. That too obviously is impossible and erroneous according to Catholic teaching.

Francis could learn all this simply by consulting the Catechism of the Catholic Church, in any of its editions or revisions.

Francis, in a speech about a month ago, said, “The scandalous accumulation of global wealth is possible because of the connivance of those with strong powers who are responsible for public affairs. Corruption is a process of death … more evil than sin….More than forgiven, this evil must be cured.”

Government corruption is "more evil than sin"? What can be more evil than sin? Perhaps he means more evil than the sins that traditionally Catholics have been most concerned about: abortion; sodomy; adultery; murder; heresy; apostasy; etc.

Notice too how Francis says that forgiveness is not relevant to this “corruption-that-is-worse-than-sin.” Rather, it must be “cured” (by socialism, perhaps?).

When asked about reports of a a gay lobby in the Vatican, Francis answered "Who am I to judge?" As Cardinal Burke has pointed out, the Church has always judged acts, and must do so. Every priest is trained to do that in the sacrament of confession. The Church, Cardinal Burke said, don't judge the eternal destiny of any soul, but must judge acts, otherwise the Catholic Faith loses its coherency. Francis shed more light on his “Who am I to judge?” comment in his now famous 2013 interview with La Repubblica when he said this: “everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.” Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict spent almost their entire pontificates refuting and fighting that sort of moral relativism.

Cardinal Burke recently said in an interview: “The Pope rightly speaks of the need to go out to the peripheries. The people have responded very warmly to this. But we cannot go to the peripheries empty-handed. We go with the Word of God, with the Sacraments, with the virtuous life of the Holy Spirit.”

So, to me it is obvious that Francis ignores and contradicts the basic teachings of the Catholic Religion.

Unforgiveness is bad, it is evil, it can lead to eternal damnation. But, even so, the unforgiving do not cease to be a Christian while in this life. One remains a member of the Church. Unforgiveness does NOT result in excommunication.

But heresy DOES result in excommunication (automatically, even, as canon law says—“latae sententiae”).

Francis said: “a Christian who is not able to forgive scandalizes: he is not Christian.” That’s not correct.

But the following revision of Francis’ statement is correct, I believe:

“a Christian who has a serious, God-given responsibility to teach and defend the Christian Religion but fails to do, and even contradicts basic Christian doctrine, he scandalizes, and he ceases to be Christian.”

TradDadof4 said...

Many thanks to Barto... great job.

This idea that if you as a Catholic dont have a certain demonstrated exterior enthusiasm, then you don't have the faith and are out of the Church ... is some sort of weird neo-Calvinist concoction.

Marie said...

"“a Christian who has a serious, God-given responsibility to teach and defend the Christian Religion but fails to do, and even contradicts basic Christian doctrine, he scandalizes, and he ceases to be Christian.”

Hear, hear!