31 May 2016

Why We're Still Here

“I think of so many faithful who express to me their profound concerns for the Church in the present time, when there seems to be so much confusion about fundamental dogmatic and moral truths. In responding to their concerns, I urge them to deepen their understanding of the constant teaching and discipline of the Church and to make their voices heard, so that the shepherds of the flock may understand the urgent need to announce again with clarity and courage the truths of the faith and to apply again with charity and firmness the discipline needed to safeguard the same truths.

--His Eminence, Raymond Cardinal Burke, speaking in Rome to the Voice of the Family Conference

12 comments:

Long Pants said...

Excellent! "...to make their voices heard, so that the shepherds of the flock may understand the urgent need to announce again with clarity and courage the truths of the faith..."

I think this is precisely why the College of Cardinals put Francis at the helm.

MtheL said...

What a truly holy man! Clear, concise and never failing to rally the faithful.

Sheenfan said...

You are right, Long Pants. The Spirit has spoken, as He always does, through the election of Pope Francis and his courageous and truthful words. Ad multos annos.

JBQ said...

A great deal of confusion and Cardinal Burke appears to be one of the few with clarity. It doesn't mean that Burke is right and Francis is wrong. It just means that Francis needs to be more explicit to allay concerns over confusion. The fear is that Francis is engendering confusion as a tactic for his agenda.

Sheenfan said...

The Spirit's tactic of confusion through multiple languages produced clarity through recognition of God's presence in the midst of the apostles and Mary at Pentecost. Francis is heard in different ways by different ears, but the same Spirit emerges through faith.

Jane Chantal said...

Hmm...I could ALMOST buy that the Spirit has provided us with such a dreadful pope in order to provoke a massive, long-overdue rebellion on the part of the faithful against "the spirit of Vatican II" -- of which this toxic papacy is one of the fruits.

Sheenfan said...

"Buying" the Spirit is disingenuous, as He has nothing to sell, only gifts to give. "Rebellion" against the Spirit of Pentecost and Vatican II is counterproductive for, as the real Jeanne de Chantal wrote in 'Wings to the Lord', "We must invoke the help of the Holy Spirit and that of our good angel, and then remain still in God‘s presence, full of faith that he is more in us than we are in ourselves".

Anonymous said...

What a pity Francis is not at all like this. At a certain moment, God will intervene.
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thetimman said...

Sheenfan,

I assume you mean Martin Sheen, because the good bishop would see things very different from you.

Jane Chantal said...

Sheenfan:

That is why I said "I can ALMOST buy".

I reject your iniquitous conflation of the "spirit of Vatican II" with the Spirit of Pentecost. There is every reason to suspect that Ste. Jeanne Francoise Fremiot de Chantal would reject it as well.

Sheenfan said...

Thetimman,

No, my view comes from personal experience as I was privileged to be chosen by 'the good bishop' to be his weekend driver in Rochester in the late 1960's and blessed to be mentored by him during our time together. Regarding his views, since my perspective would be ridiculed (a favorite tactic of this site), I suggest you take the time to read about Bishop Sheen's choosing to resign as bishop in the face of relentless opposition by the local conservative clergy in:
1.) archives of "The Catholic Courier", the Rochester diocesan newspaper; 2.) accounts provided by the conservative Rochester blogsite "Cleansing Fire; 3.) the part of Bishop Sheen's biography, "America's Bishop", dealing with his final days in Rochester; 4.)archives of the then-conservative Rochester newspapers, the Times-Union and Democrat & Chronicle.

The local clergy, most of whom are deceased, referred to him as "Our liberal bishop" and were delighted to see him leave and dismayed to see him replaced by the progressive (his term) Joseph L. Hogan, who was chosen by 'the good bishop'.

So don't take my word for it. Do something that rarely happens on this site - check the facts.

Like the good bishop, I will exit this site and go on to better things.

JBQ said...

Congratulations to Jane Chantal for making a very good point.